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Wagner Painting by Schweninger
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d***@gmail.com
2015-01-27 16:10:18 UTC
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Help. I am desperate for information regarding a painting of the
composer Richard Wagner (possibly called "Richard Wagner's Dream") done
by an artist named "Schweninger"' Specifically I would like to know
where the original is, when it was
completed and so on. Thank you.
Bruce
McKellar
Greetings,
I have seen that painting in online images. Wondering if you gentlemen have any more info on it, as far as its creation date, correct title, number of original prints that were produced, etc. Also, do you know if it was Karl Sr or Karl Jr that painted it? Thank you.
Mike Scott Rohan
2015-01-28 18:07:51 UTC
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Help. I am desperate for information regarding a painting of the
composer Richard Wagner (possibly called "Richard Wagner's Dream") done
by an artist named "Schweninger"' Specifically I would like to know
where the original is, when it was
completed and so on. Thank you.
Bruce
McKellar
Somebody in Yahoo's Online Answers, under the heading "How do I find out about old paintings?" claims to have found a print of this, among others, in the frame of an old picture painted by (would you believe) one George Dull, Jasper Park, 1940. It does sound like the sort of thing they would make prints of, possibly as Bayreuth souvenirs, along with Wagner's death mask and God knows what else. If they reached Idaho they were probably fairly common. That would mean your best bet would be some kind of historical print dealer online, possibly in Germany.
If I can find anything more helpful, I'll post it.

Cheers,

Mike
Mike Scott Rohan
2015-01-28 18:48:34 UTC
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Post by Mike Scott Rohan
Somebody in Yahoo's Online Answers, under the heading "How do I find out about old paintings?" claims to have found a print of this, among others, in the frame of an old picture painted by (would you believe) one George Dull, Jasper Park, 1940. It does sound like the sort of thing they would make prints of, possibly as Bayreuth souvenirs, along with Wagner's death mask and God knows what else. If they reached Idaho they were probably fairly common. That would mean your best bet would be some kind of historical print dealer online, possibly in Germany.
If I can find anything more helpful, I'll post it.
Cheers,
Mike
Further to the above, I've found that Karl snr. did a lot of similar musical subjects, including studies of Schubert and Schumann with their Muses, and apparently another I've found no image of, entitled Beethoven in the Storm. He also did one of Lohengrin and Elsa on their wedding night. So it sounds very much as if it was him, rather than son Carl, who mostly did generalized historical studies -- the kind of thing with jolly cardinals drinking that used to turn up on Christmas cards. I may be able to find more, but I'm pretty busy right now!

Cheers,

Mike
Mike Scott Rohan
2015-02-01 11:40:37 UTC
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Well, I've found what appears to be a reproduction of this pic at www.richard-wagner-postkarten.de, a site some of us will have visited. There are actually two, very similar, but only one has a subscription. This, curiously, is in both Russian and German, the latter of which attributes it to "C.Schweninger", which could be either father or son; the Russian, however, uses "K." confirming it's by Karl -- as indeed it looks to be.

His bio details aren't hard to find on line, and since it's quite likely this was done late in Wagner's life, or after Wagner's death, it was also late in Schweniger's, because he died in 1887. It's not one of his best works by any means; A Guardian in the Storm, for example, seems much better. Anyhow, there is a "Kontakte" link on this site, and it's possible they might be able to tell you more. Hope that's a start, at least!

Cheers,

Mike
d***@gmail.com
2016-02-15 19:24:35 UTC
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Help. I am desperate for information regarding a painting of the
composer Richard Wagner (possibly called "Richard Wagner's Dream") done
by an artist named "Schweninger"' Specifically I would like to know
where the original is, when it was
completed and so on. Thank you.
Bruce
McKellar
Hello,
I have an original framed print of this same painting by Schweninger (at least I think its a print). It was a gift to my great grandfather and was given to him in Europe in the early 1900's. I'll be interested to see what kind of value it has. Perhaps I should write to Wagner House? or any other suggestions welcome? Thank you in advance for any more info.
David Salzmann
Mike Scott Rohan
2016-02-16 01:10:08 UTC
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Hello,
I have an original framed print of this same painting by Schweninger (at least I think its a print). It was a gift to my great grandfather and was given to him in Europe in the early 1900's. I'll be interested to see what kind of value it has. Perhaps I should write to Wagner House? or any other suggestions welcome? Thank you in advance for any more info.
David Salzmann
As far as I know from my own limited art buying, prints of this era are not usually very valuable in the general markets, but you might do better with a (reputable) auction house planning a music-related salem whuch would atract the kind of buyer you need. Specialist dealers, especially in the autograph area, can be absolute sharks. If you're happy using E-Bay, that might be best of all.

Cheers,

Mike

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